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A mother asked President Bush,
"Why did my son have to die in Iraq?"
Another mother asked President Kennedy,
"Why did my son have to die in Viet Nam?"
Another mother asked President Truman,
"Why did my son have to die in Korea?
Another mother asked President F.D. Roosevelt,
"Why did my son have to die at Iwo Jima?"
Another mother asked President W. Wilson,
"Why did my son have to die on the battlefield of France?"
Yet another mother asked President Lincoln,
"Why did my son have to die at Gettysburg?"
And yet another mother asked President G. Washington,
"Why did my son have to die near Valley Forge?"
Then long, long ago, a mother asked...
"Heavenly Father, why did my Son have to die on a cross outside of
Jerusalem?"
The answers to all these are similar --
"So that others may have life and dwell in peace, happiness and
freedom."
This was emailed to me with no author and I thought the magnitude and the
simplicity of the message were awesome ...
IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, AND THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF PLEASE, FEEL
FREE...TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !!!
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| | | | good one, airman. 
I've read it before but am just as touched now. I pray that the freedoms (I hope with accompanying responsibilities) that are enjoyed now because of their sacrifices, will be appreciated everlastingly.
I am reminded of the sacrificies of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
Five were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.
Nine died from wounds or hardships of the War.
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well-educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vadals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged Gen. George Washington to open fire. The home ws destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill was laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't.
Remember everyone: freedom is never free!
Thanks again, airman. 
Jesus wept. - John 11:35
Jesus wept. - John 11:35 |
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| | | | The premise in the initial post inevitably leads to the conclusion that wars are a tremendously beneficial thing to mankind. Because they ensure that "others may have life and dwell in peace, happiness and freedom."
Come on. You can't be serious.
It's good if you stand behind your troops.
But let's be aware that by such a carte blanche any would-be warlords are being assisted in a massive way.
Wars tend to create infinitely more sorrow than relief. With very few exceptions.
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| | | | while i understand the message, i do not feel that the comparison of battles is valid.
that is the reason WHY so many others should be asking the president
and all others responsible for the iraqi occupation
WHY?
the fact of the matter is, we're there for the oil.
the reality can be dressed up and glazed over and ignored and censored until the end of time
but thats the truth.
the sad truth.
the troops are doing their duty. i believe that.
they do a selfless thing for the betterment of a selfish few.
~~~~~*until they all come home*~~~~~~~
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| | | | *the war from different perspectives*
Jewish chicken:
Vaat?? US invades Iraq and nobody cares
but I cross the road and get a federal case on my @$$!!!
Einstein:
perhaps, the question is not why did the US feel the need to invade iraq
but instead why Iraq felt the need to attack the US, firstly? hm.
*brings up the chalkboard and writes up a formula*
let us examine the simple equation:
Iraqi attack + death of many Americans = US defensive countermeasures/invasion
Wow. See. Simple.
Carl Jung:
The confluence of events in the cultural gestalt
necessitated that the US defend itself and invade at
this historical juncture, and therefore synchronicitously brought such occurrences into being.
Epidurus: for Fun!!! See, we decide to play practical prank on Iraqi's
we give encoded secret messege about Giant-Iraqi-planet-people-eaters over US military radio/channels.... We fool Iraqi radicals into believing the iraqi planet people eaters will devour and destroy allah and all of them shortly afterwards....we give specifics leading Arab nations into believe US was the culprit behind the release of the iraqi-planet-people-eaters... so radicals, get crazy angry/scared - attack them & are invaded in return. what fools!!!!! ahahahahahaha!
Arabs just don't like jokes, I guess
Pyrrho the Skeptic - What invasion?
Issac Newton - The US suggested to Radicals around key Arab nations
that they play ....in a game, of cards: Radicals try to cheat the US on a massive scale:
the consquences for cheating thus was invasion,
once again proving that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Dr, Seuss's version of the war on Terrorism, using the story of 'The Binch':
Every U down in Uville liked U.S. a lot,
But the Binch, who lived Far East of Uville, did not.
The Binch hated U.S! the whole U.S. way!
Now don't ask me why, for nobody can say,
It could be his turban was screwed on too tight.
Or the sun from the desert had beaten too bright
But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
But, Whatever the reason, his heart or his turban,
He stood facing Uville, the part that was urban.
"They're doing their business," he snarled from his perch.
"They're raising their families! They're going to church!
They're leading the world, and their empire is thriving,
I MUST keep the S's and U's from surviving!"
Tomorrow, he knew, all the U's and the S's,
Would put on their pants and their shirts and their dresses,
They'd go to their offices, playgrounds and schools,
And abide by their U and S values and rules,
And then they'd do something he liked least of all,
Every U down in U-ville, the tall and the small,
Would stand all united, each U and each S,
And they'd sing Uville's anthem, "God bless us! God bless!"
All around their Twin Towers of Uville, they'd stand,
and their voices would drown every sound in the land.
"I must stop that singing," Binch said with a smirk,
And he had an idea--an idea that might work!
The Binch stole some U airplanes in U morning hours,
And crashed them right into the Uville Twin Towers.
"They'll wake to disaster!" he snickered, so sour,
"And how can they sing when they can't find a tower?"
The Binch cocked his ear as they woke from their sleeping,
All set to enjoy their U-wailing and weeping,
Instead he heard something that started quite low,
And it built up quite slow, but it started to grow--
And the Binch heard the most unpredictable thing...
And he couldn't believe it--they started to sing!
He stared down at U-ville, not trusting his eyes,
What he saw was a shocking, disgusting surprise!
Every U down in U-ville, the tall and the small,
Was singing! Without any towers at all!
He HADN'T stopped U-Ville from singing! It sung!
For down deep in the hearts of the old and the young,
Those Twin Towers were standing, called Hope and called Pride,
And you can't smash the towers we hold deep inside.
So we circle the sites where our heroes did fall,
With a hand in each hand of the tall and the small,
And we mourn for our losses while knowing we'll cope,
For we still have inside that U-Pride and U-Hope.
For America means a bit more than tall towers,
It means more than wealth or political powers,
It's more than our enemies ever could guess,
So may God bless America! Bless us! God bless!
My lips are as the watery brine, My breath is of the sea.
If you should kiss these cold clay lips; Thy death shall surely be.
eb ot teirh vetisur eryv indk,
eb ot tireh ualfts a ltlite lnidb. |
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| | | | RunSaber .... do tell, when did Iraq atack the US? I can think of now two different wars where it was the other way, but not one single Iraqie attack on the US. Did we miss something? Where and when did Iarqie troops land in the United States?
And I quote you..."but instead why Iraq felt the need to attack the US, firstly?"
I can answer that, never ever did Iraq atack the Untied States, not once. Sure they attacked troops on thier native soil, but it was thier country, not the Americans. I am just very very interested to know when Saddam's forces made headway in to the United States. damn I hate missing the news *LOL*There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness
if you are closed minded, you are not going to like me *S*
"To know, is to know you know nothing."
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| | | | | I take it that the purpose of this category is the support of the military. Do you think that those of you who would post comments attacking the military could do it in another area, out of a sense of basic decorum if nothing else, perhaps NHB Politics where you can smear the military to your black and grey hearts' content? |
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this thread was political from the start. If a general ok is given to all past wars the U.S. has ever been involved in, and if it implies a preemptive ok also to all future wars, it is a highly political statement. Why should such a statement be granted a protective decorum? Apart from the fact that a discussion board is there for people to discuss, not to hail.
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maybe its important to remember, that in the US at least,our soldiers do not pick an choose the wars, they do not even actively participate in the political process (something that is rare in just about any nations history) they do what our elected officials tell them to do, WE THE PEOPLE elect into office our leaders, you got a beef with the wars that are fought, look to who you elect.
before you blame the soldiers on the ground, and the military in general, remember when people were shouting "something must be done" and next time you before shouting "something must be done" be it in dufar, lebanon, vietnam, N. korea, make sure that you are going to follow up and support your crys when mothers are greiving thier sons, and daughters.
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